### Ice Cores

My scientific colleagues go to places like Greenland, the Arctic. They go to Antarctica. And they drill into this ice with hollow drill bits. It’s not that extraordinary. Many of you have probably done it yourselves, drilling other things, hole saws to put locks in doors for example. And we pull out long cylinders of ice, long ice rods. And these are made of snow. And, by long tradition, it’s called snow ice. And snow ice forms over the winter as snowflakes fall and are crushed down by subsequent layers, they’re crushed together, entrapping the little bubbles, and the little bubbles must needs be the ancient atmosphere. There’s nobody running around with a hypodermic needle, you know, squirting ancient atmosphere into the bubbles, and we find certain of these cylinders to have 680,000 layers. 680,000 snow winter-summer cycles. How could it be that just 4,000 years ago all of this ice formed? Let’s just run some numbers. This is some scenes from lovely Antarctic. Let’s say we have 680,000 layers of snow ice and 4,000 years since the great Flood. That would mean we would need 170 winter-summer cycles every year for the last 4,000 years. I mean, wouldn’t someone have noticed that? [laughing] Wow! [laughing] Wouldn’t someone have noticed that there’s been winter-summer-winter-summer 170 times one year? Six-hundred-eighty-thousand years of snow ice layers, which require winter-summer cycle. ~ Bill Nye

This argument is easy to handle since it depends on three assumptions, and the first two assumptions are hidden assumptions. First is the assumption that there was no Genesis Flood. Second is the assumption that the earth is billions of years old. Of course, Bill is trying to prove those two assumptions, so those assumptions are the basis for a form of circular reasoning known as begging the question. In other words, Bill is assuming the conclusion to prove the conclusion.

Bill also assumes that one ring in the ice is one year, and this assumption fits in with the first two hidden assumptions. This assumption is like the tree-ring-per-year fallacy since it doesn’t work this way in real life. In real life, a single large storm can make many rings in the ice, and we can observe this fact.

Using knowledge of proved formulas gathered from scientific testing, scientists have created models of the Genesis Flood. And they’ve used those models to calculate that the Genesis Flood would have caused many violent storms per year. The storms would have caused many rings. Bill may not have been aware of this scientific research. Ungodly scientists usually insulate themselves from information that might conflict with what they already believe. Of course, no model or theory can prove anything. They just present ideas to consider.

Another important piece of evidence that Bill also left out is the evidence of the Lost Squadron. In July of 1942, Americans abandoned a squadron of P-38 Lightening airplanes in Greenland after making an emergency landing. Then, fifty years later, in May of 1992, a salvage crew went back for the planes and found that the planes were under 75 meters (250 feet) of ice in just 50 years. From this observation, we can calculate the age of the ice cores Bill Nye mentioned by comparing the depth of the planes (75 meters) to the depth of ice in the ice cores (3,000 meters).

The planes were there 50 years and were 75 meters deep, which means that every 75 meters of depth represents 50 years.

3,000 meters is 40 times as deep as 75 meters.

3,000 meters / 75 meters = 40 times as deep

40 X 50 years = 2,000 years

Using assumptions, Bill Nye calculated an age for the ice cores of 680,000 years, but using observation of the P-38 Lightening airplanes, we calculate an age for the ice cores of 2,000 years. We must admit that both calculations use assumptions, so neither one provides real knowledge. The only way we can know that the Genesis Creation and Flood both occurred is by divine revelation.

This post is adapted from a book called “Exposing the Nye-Ham Debate.” That book will be included in the soon-to-be-released boxed set called *Real Faith & Reason*. Real Reality, Inc. will have rights to distribute and promote the ebook and audiobook versions of *Real Faith & Reason*, and it will be free. Because of the amount of research material in *Real Faith & Reason*, the print version will be fairly pricey, but many may want a copy for their libraries.