Atheistic Science Teacher
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Consider two opinions. Charles Darwin said, “Man is descended from a hairy, tailed quadruped, probably arboreal in its habits.” Genesis 1 says, “God created man in His own image; in God’s image He created him; male and female He created them.” Who’s right?
Rocky Rockbuilder: “We know, by divine revelation, that the second account is true. Those who believe the first story base their belief on made-up stuff.”
Atheistic Science Teacher: “Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.”
Rocky: “In fact, without divine revelation, every thought must be based on made-up stuff. The Münchausen trilemma states this problem crudely, but it applies to ungodly thinkers. We just need to be aware that the trilemma presents a false choice, leaving out divine revelation.”
Atheistic Science Teacher: “Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.”
Rocky: “The axiomatic thinking fallacy (making up stuff and calling the made-up stuff true) is the root fallacy. All others are smokescreen fallacies to pretend that the human mind isn’t just making up stuff when the human mind IS just making up stuff. For instance, the appeal to ridicule fallacy is simply a smokescreen to hide irrational thinking by the person who’s appealing to ridicule.”
Atheistic Science Teacher: “Divine revelation IS made-up stuff…middle-of-the-road fiction.”
Rocky: “And do you know what you claim by making it up, or can you show me the logical steps and observations on which you base this claim?”
Atheistic Science Teacher: “In order to know what you perceive to be divine revelation is actually divine revelation and not a mistaken perception on your end or deception from a malevolent entity, you would need to be omniscient yourself. The appeal to divine revelation does literally nothing to escape the epistemological problems you highlight in other worldviews; in fact, it bases your worldview on an extremely spurious and highly subjective claim.”
Rocky: “What makes you think the Almighty Creator God can’t impart a supernatural certainty that He calls faith? And what makes you think I don’t have Christ, the omniscient Creator of the universe living in me? Sorry, but I don’t accept bare assertions from fallible humans.”
Atheistic Science Teacher: “How would humans discern the difference between what actually is supernatural certainty and what they merely believed to be supernatural certainty?”
Rocky: “I’m happy to answer this question. Faith is substance (reality) and absolutely certain proof that we receive as a gift from God. Faith comes when He speaks, and Jesus Christ, the almighty, omniscient Creator is the Author of it. And anyone who sincerely seeks truth will check out what I’m saying by coming to Christ in willing submission since all who seek Him find Him. We know in part, but through persistent, obedient submission to His will, those who follow Christ are becoming increasingly mature and able to discern between good (God’s leading) and evil (our own minds). Now, you may disagree with my assertion, but you’ll base your disagreement on made-up stuff.”
At this point, the atheistic science teacher dropped out of the conversation suddenly. He must understand something about logic and science since those who have no clue about how logic and science work just continue to argue.
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